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I manage IT services for several small businesses and periodically need to purchase new computers with Office. It will not let me activate it without adding it to a MS account. I know this is a perennial question, beginning with Office , that is a major headache for independent technical consultants that support small businesses, as I do. But I have never seen a solid answer as to how to get this installed on the computer without the MS account–just a lot of try this, try that.

But I must have Office installed, activated, and updated before I give the system to my client. The activation dialog, in fact, gives me the option of using a product key instead of a login, but then proceeds to “Redeem Online”–which I believe will end up with the same result that requires a MS account.

At this point, I now have a bigger issue. I backed up the Program Data folder that contains the cached Office installation files, then uninstalled MS Office, hoping that a reinstall would give me some option to truly install without being forced to figure out a MS account for my client. The uninstallation removed the original setup folders. Good thing I backed it up, but then when I reinstall from any of those, it installs Office , not Office And while it still validates the key when I click the option to use a key instead of a logon, it as before takes me to “Redeem Online”.

Hello, Microsoft: this issue alone has just eliminated my entire profit from this project, given the time I have already spent trying to get this done, then uninstalling and attempting to reinstall.

I know there are versions that can be activated without a MS account, but I do not buy in bulk and can never seem to figure out which is which. We understand how you feel about the situation. Let me guide you to resolve the issue. Since the issue is related to Office Home and business, I suggest you to post this query in following Office Community for better suggestions. Thank you. Was this reply helpful?

Yes No. Sorry this didn’t help. Thanks for your feedback. This isn’t helpful at all. What Brian said is spot on. My company is an IT consulting company for many small businesses. We order computers from many vendors such as Dell which has OEM licensing. I cannot activate office with my Microsoft account, nor should I. And I cannot setup Microsoft accounts for all of my clients.

This is time consuming and frankly a waste of time. We should not have to do this. We sell hundreds of computers a year, and can’t possibly force my clients to create a Microsoft Account for their office license.

That link did not help at all. There needs to be a fix immediately. Otherwise the giant of Microsoft will suffer great losses in sales. I think that many IT companies like mine will start looking at alternate products at this point. I totally agree, the OEM activation process is an absolute nightmare. And even if you’re able to setup or access a client’s MS Live account, good luck trying to identify which licenses are tied to which devices.

There’s also a limit on the number of license registrations per account don’t recall what it is, think it’s maybe 10 or so? So now, you also have to maintain a spreadsheet or some kind of documentation of what licenses are tied to which device and which registration account After all this, then you pray you never have to reinstall office at some point in the future I know that Dell’s and I think HP’s OEM Office keys were able to activate without an account, but right now, computers that are shipping with Office license have the CTR installation and you’re forced to go through the Live account registration process to get installed.

Maybe this will change once the OPK is out and Dell gets that into their base image – not sure how long this will be though. This isn’t anything new, it’s been this way beginning with Office and continues with Microsoft has pretty much ignored all complaints related to this and I suspect they really don’t care as they continue to beat the O drum and march everyone towards a subscription model and having a MS Live account gives them a great hook into these customers.

Makes one wonder if this OEM activation mess isn’t largely by design Threats include any threat of suicide, violence, or harm to another. Any content of an adult theme or inappropriate to a community web site. Any image, link, or discussion of nudity. Any behavior that is insulting, rude, vulgar, desecrating, or showing disrespect.

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Details required : characters remaining Cancel Submit 32 people found this reply helpful. I posted over on the Office forum as Sushma suggested but got only a list of which products require which type of account personal or private. That again missed the point entirely if not downright avoiding it. It is nice to know I am not the only one beginning to suspect that the activation difficulties may be intentional.

Of course, it affects the independent consultant far worse than anyone else. Larger companies can take their soma with a nod to Huxley’s Brave New World and have no problem setting up corporate accounts; single-user companies that do their own software have little choice and must do the same or set up the MS account in the owner’s or user’s name.

But the outside consultant that provides service and computers to small businesses is peculiarly stuck. We cannot use our own accounts, or the licenses are stuck to us forever.

But the owner’s birthday is also none of our business–and not easily obtainable at midnight even if it were. And what if a computer or the entire business, with its computers is sold? How does the new owner reinstall Office if required? I guess that is one way for MS to generate more revenue–make the activation process quirky enough that it is actually easier to just buy a fresh copy than it is to reinstall.

After several hours of beating one’s head against the wall on this at midnight, it definitely leads one to feel as though Microsoft has more sinister designs towards independent consulting–or perhaps toward independent thought entirely.

To make matters worse, Microsoft seems to think everyone has gigabits of bandwidth lying around waiting to be used. At least SBS meant email trickled in and out in the background, it was slow but workable. There is no way I can expect these clients to suffer through miserable email speed as well as a 1GB download per PC to install office as well as the Microsoft ID issue, nor are they willing to stump up the considerable costs in licencing to run full blown Exchange internally.

I am also wondering how MS thinks small businesses operate? There is usually regular staff turnover so MS ID’s per user are not viable. If we move those with decent internet links to Office then the licences can be transferred to other users but as mentioned above, this is not always possible.

There is also no way they will be prepared to spend three times the cost per seat for volume licencing. I have been creating a generic Microsoft ID literally microsoftid clientdomain as an alias on an existing account usually the admin account that I have access to, a generic birthdate and the business owners mobile number to activate Office Home and Business so I can download and install on my 70mbps connection.

I have not yet had any issues but also have not connected more than activations to any one account. When that happens, it will require microsoftid2 clientdomain etc. A few things concern me though, also my clients, such the privacy and security off all these PC’s making direct connections to MS cloud services under the one account.

Users are being told to only save data to internal file servers but there does appear to be some two way history that sometimes comes through to another machine such as recent files. For non-business users, I simply hand them a licence key card and tell them that unfortunately for reasons outside my control, I cannot install this for them unless they trust me with their MS ID login, they will need to do it themselves and if they dont have a Microsoft ID, they will need to create one or move to the free Libre Office if it has enough functionality for what they need.

Not a word of which products, if any, might allow activation by product key only. Of course, I cannot charge my clients for my headaches or extra time involved, but I will charge them the extra for retail. The loss of time for me is just too significant for me to risk repeating this beating-head-against-wall over OEM licensing!

I guess I will just keep the for when I get a new computer and can put it on my own MS account. But that is not something I can repeat regularly. You could with but you cannot even buy Office with installation media , it is just a product key card and you cannot even download it, let alone activate it without a Live ID.

At least not here in Australia. I refuse to do this, if I order new computers I am not making MS accounts, nor am I going to pile them all into one account because we’d never know which key went to which machine. But regardless, this is a huge problem. I can’t activate these machines on a one-by-one basis, no sane IT department would undertake the task of creating discrete Live accounts for each and every new machine they get.

That’s what OEM licensing is supposed to be. Details required : characters remaining Cancel Submit 14 people found this reply helpful. Very glad I opened this thread, now. I thought maybe I was missing some simple workaround or was the only one bothered by all of this nonsense. As one user posted, it seems that the same applies to the retail license the same as OEM.

Sure, I’m going to give my corporate MS account information to Uri’s Used Computer sales so they can use the license they legitimately purchased with the used computer. It is obvious this is obnoxious behavior from Microsoft. Not sure if they are mean, or just stupid. But the big question is whether we can get Microsoft to reconsider this obnoxious behavior? Their tech support has no say over how things are done.

 
 

 

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